Some Prison Intel

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Some Prison Intel

Postby Darren Laur on Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:41 pm

One of my students (nickname Rhino) here at the school works at our local Regional Correctional Center (VIRCC), and shared with me some information that I thought would be of some interest to those on this forum.

Tonight we were working some break-contact drills, some of which were chokes, at which time Rhino asked if he could address the class. It was at this time that “we” as a class learned that it was very common for those in VIRCC to watch any and all TV shows and DVD’s specific to the UFC, including the new Ultimate Fighter/Challenge show that airs on most cable providers. Although not surprising to me, what I did find interesting was the fact that Rhino further advised that the inmates often practiced choking each other out to the point where unconsciousness was obtained.

Another example how “play” in an institutional setting is actually a combative skill that can and will be used for survival or criminal opportunity, both inside and outside of the correctional setting.

Train hard brothers and sisters, because those who prey upon us have nothing but time to hone their predatory behaviour.


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Postby PeterMuwonge on Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:12 am

Interesting. I suppose the answer is to be capable of a level of visciousness--that exceeds your attackers'/maximizes your primal capacity--combined with a sound strategy with more emphasis on the former.
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Postby Richard Dimitri on Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:43 pm

I would say be vigilante, be aware, avoid putting ones self in harms way, avoid high risk environments, learn defusing and de-escalation skills, and then... what Pete said :)
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Postby Roadrunner on Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:05 pm

Why is it the dojo darlings DON'T understand this? Criminals, felons, inmates, street thugs DO often times study martial arts. They live in a world where violence is often the norm. They often face LEO who are fully capable of doing them harm to prevent a crime, escape, or police assault.

Criminals are often stupid, but not THAT stupid. They understand that victims may actually resist, so they often times take time to feel out a potential victim. THEN they formulate a plan to neutralize that mark's assests or abilities.

RBSD is like insurance. You REALLY hope you never have to collect. You DO however want to make sure what you know and can apply is sound and something that will actually work should we come face to face with our
own personal Armageddon.

There's a Hannible Lector out there for each and every one of us. :shock:
All we have to do is walk through life with cranial rectal inversion (head in the rear). :(
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Postby Darren Laur on Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:32 pm

Here's another eye opener, ex-cons demonstrating how they workout
; their company is called "Thug Workout":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uGV630x1vI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h84m5BXCxKs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBVeG4zWL0g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uGV630x1vI


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Postby Roadrunner on Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:54 pm

LOOk at these guys ! People wonder why a 54 year old carries a weapon. Why he studies improvised weapons. Why he preaches fitness. Why even
after 35 years he seeks out the best material.

Some of my fellow 50 somethings will say "they'll never move to MY neighborhood." :roll:

While they're improving their golf game, these guys are casing their homes, following their loved ones, planning on carjacking that expensive import they're driving.

These guys ARE in our neighborhoods. In the apartments down the street. Working in the stores and restaurants we frequent . Going to the same places our loved ones go for entertainment.

They can turn a nice area/establishment into a crime infested crap hole in less then a year (i.e. Deep Ellum in Dallas). Eternal vigilance is the price one pays for caring, knowing, and being a difference maker. :x

All this vigilance makes me tired sometime :x ....the alternative however simply isn't an option. :shock:
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Postby Contemporary Fighter on Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:28 pm

Well hopefully they'll continue in training to build solid mirror muscle, deteriorating their functional performance with each body building workout ... tearing down muscle cells, only to reproduce bigger, slower, and funciontally inferior isolated strength that lacks real power.

Then on top of that, they'll watch UFC and ingrain some sportive muscle memory into their arsenal, not realizing they are absorbing physical skills that will best assist them inside the ring ... not necessarily outside of the ring

Then if they ever dare to cross the path of a functionally fit, RBSD master ..., getting in his/her passive face, with a show of fierce muscularity and foul street talk like a dog with a ferocious bark ... they will get quickly annihilated and shredded like a mist of vapor by our unsuspecting behavioral delivery system.

Then we'll be the ones making the movies, eh?

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Postby DP on Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:40 am

Did you happen to notice their chicken legs? Big upperbody on top to 2 toothpicks.
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Postby crazyguywithasword on Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:07 am

Those guys are gonna stick in my head, and at the risk of sounding like a paranoid/elitist/racist-RBSD nutjob, guys like them are what we're training against.


On the other hand, If I wanted to watch a bunch of hoods get half naked and work up a sweat together, I'd go out an rent an episode of OZ. People actually buy this stuff? They seem to just do variations on L pullups and stuff, which are cool and good, but, the guys like "if you've ever seen this before, I made it up" and proceeds to do some pullups.

Did I ever tell ya'll I invented jogging?
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Postby Contemporary Fighter on Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:17 pm

Would those thugs last 20 seconds against the guys in movie below (and if trained in "da shreddah"?)?

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/FGB.rmvb

I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T THINK SO.
THEY ARE STILL HUMAN. THEY ARE STILL HUMAN.
THEIR EYES/THROAT HAVE NO MUSCLES. THEIR EYES/THROAT HAVE NO MUSCLES.

(Repeat above 1000 times while training like the athletes shown in the movie above ... :lol: )
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Postby David Roberson on Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:30 pm

If annoys me that guys in the slammer are allowed to watch this kind of stuff.

We need more prisons like that one in Maricopa County AZ, where the inmates get only The Weather Channel and Disney.

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