Shredder review by a non-Senshido guy

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Shredder review by a non-Senshido guy

Postby Ville on Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:58 am

Hi all!

There are many Shredder reviews on this site. This one might be of use to those with no prior knowledge of Senshido at all (like me). So if you are an instructor/trainer of some other art and have no idea about Senshido at all please read on.

Production values:

Well...not much to say here really. A VCR tape and a photocopied booklet. Personally I found it helpful to do as instructed and read the manual before watching the tapes. IMO this is quite useful if you have no idea about the principles of Senshido. The actual tape is filmed in a training place with camcorder. No DVD menus, no simulated SWAT team entries or street attacks, no heavy metal soundtrack. I showed a clip to my friend and he said: "A tattooed guy in a wifebeater shirt explaining how rip the face off...I love Senshido already!" :lol: The tape does not differ much in production values from the majority of the instructional tapes out there. Gotta love that logo though.

The Meat

As an instructor I must first give credit to Richard for his teaching ability. You see without those SWAT team entries and heavy metal soundtracks he got me glued to the screen for the whole 80 minutes. One has to admire the his enthusiasm and his ability to convey information. I personally like his humour a lot and those four letter words injected now and then make it all a bit more real and gritty. It might not be everyones cup of tea but I personally enjoy instruction like that. Also worth mentioning is that the tape was probably taken with only a few takes yet the information delivered is clear and coherent.

But all that is secondary to the actual concept of Shredding. Is it good or not? Is it the "missing link" in martial arts? Is it something totally new?
Well the answer is yes and no.

Many RBSD systems have employed similar concepts/techniques: Compound attacks delivered with broken or shattered rhythm, attacking weak points in opponents anatomy especially the facial area.
But that is not what the Shredder is about. When I told my friends (RBSD instructors) about it the majority said:"Well whats the deal, we've been doing that s**t, eye gouges etc. How many ways there are to rip the face off?"

My answer to them was this:

Almost every system has employed some form of roundhouse kick. Yet people kick it in many different ways. Or they used to. Ever since the Muay Thai people showed how they have honed and evolved that kick pretty much everyone who wants to kick an effective round kick does it the thai way.

So what The Shredder does to the concept of attacking/gouging/ripping many times the weak spots of the opponent (mainly facial area) is the same as the thai did to the round kick: It fine tunes it, it hones it, it takes it to "the next level" But keep in mind that this is not a technique like a single kick but a concept.

Which brings me to the next item: Is it worth the buy? Can I learn it?

Yes and yes.

I personally found no difficulty in learning it. Actually I must say that so far of all the things in martial arts that I have learned so far this is one of the easiest to pick up and also one of the most effective tools. Believe me when I tell you that that is quite a lot. Since it is a concept and not a technique it should fit right there in your toolbox whatever your system is. If you have trained in reality based systems you should already know those attacks but the concept of shredding IMO multiplies their effectiviness. You can enhance your fighting ability with the Shredder, especially in the clinch, on the ground, against weapons, multiple attackers.

What is missing from the tape are different drills for the Shredder. A few drills are shown by Richies students and they are fun to watch. I personally would have liked a bit more details on how to train it.

[This has nothing to do with Shredder as such but in one scenario the attacker fumbles and drops his knife when he is taking it out from his pocket. What happens in the average dojo at this point is that the victim laughs and maybe picks up the knife and hands it to the attacker and they start again. What happens in this clip is that the "victim" immediately exploits the mistake and attacks the opponent as he is going for the knife on the ground. To me that made quite an impression. I know nothing about Senshido but I must admit that they must practise the right way otherwise that would not have happened. Good work]

After you buy the tape (as you should) you can truly appreciate the concept after you have trained it, ESPECIALLY AS THE RECEIVER! This is important, you must experience it to appreciate it. See IMO the most strongest point of The Shredder is not the actual damage caused to the enemy although that can be devastating in itself. It is the psychological side. The feeling of getting shredded is so overwhelming that you cannot concentrate on anything else except removing those hands from you face. So even if the guy doing the Shredding is not causing any damage(that is one option BTW not just in training) at the very least he will get openings for other attacks. He will make the opponent to go on the defensive.

I must confess that in the last 5 yrs or so this has been the first concept in RBSD that has actually made me go: Wow!

Now go ahead and get that tape.
You will not be disappointed.
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Postby malevolent preacher on Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:32 am

A "tatooed guy in a wife beater shirt" I love it! Good honest review!
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Postby Richard Dimitri on Mon Dec 01, 2003 10:13 am

Ville, thank you for the honest review and kind words. It's always great to hear when someone who teaches other systems such as yourself fundamentally understands the Shredder the way you have. I hope more are as openminded as yourself about the Shredder and watch it to learn instead of watching it to try and find weaknesses or chinks in the armour or even with a comparative eye... thank you.

"Tattooed guy in a wife beater T-shirt explaining how to rip faces off" - Priceless, I laughed my ass off reading that!

[This has nothing to do with Shredder as such but in one scenario the attacker fumbles and drops his knife when he is taking it out from his pocket. What happens in the average dojo at this point is that the victim laughs and maybe picks up the knife and hands it to the attacker and they start again. What happens in this clip is that the "victim" immediately exploits the mistake and attacks the opponent as he is going for the knife on the ground. To me that made quite an impression. I know nothing about Senshido but I must admit that they must practise the right way otherwise that would not have happened. Good work]


This is a major part of how we teach. Mistakes don't exist, you screw up, the scenario continues just as it would in real life. I never, ever let my students 'start over'. Whatever happens, happens.

Oh and by the way, all our tapes are shot live and straight through, no rehearsals, no cuts, no editing, no second takes... a real fight happens in one shot so what you see is what you get with our tapes.

I'm not into the flash, the eye candy, the opera music etc. To me, personally, that's Hollywood. I am not Hollywood. You bought my stuff to learn how to fight, not to be entertained or mezmerized by flash. In my opinion, Flash shows and eye candy are used to hide the lack of substance in the materials. Even when my DVD's come out, they will be filmed in one take with no flash and no eye candy, you want graphics? Rent a movie. :wink:
Sincerely,
Rich

"A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life are based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still receiving.“ - Albert Einstein
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